Glocks, Glocks, and all things Glocks...

[Glocker]

Glock gbb users, para sa inyo, aling brand ng glock gbb's ang ppiliin nyo in terms of performance and manageability?

[Orange]

In the airsoft world, only KSC does Glocks properly. No MGC, TM, or KJW comes close to a KSC Glock. I love airsoft Glocks. And for airsoft Glocks, I love KSC.

The TM Glock 26 is unrealisticly finished (too shiny), has an unrealistic trigger behavior (doesn't stay down when striker is un-cocked like in a real glock), too light, and breaks the loading nozzle easily on stronger gas. And it has rollers... wahahaha. That's just wrong. Its gbb airsoft... on wheels! But interestingly, it is more accurate than a KSC Glock 26. The newer Glock 17 is an improvement, but still was based on the original design of the 26. The only other glock TM makes is a springer and an electric, and I'm not even going to comment on that because I'm allergic to things that do not run on refrigerants.

It is worth noting that KJW has copies of the Marui glocks, but they were worse. One KJW Glock 23 I had broke the frame! Cracked right down the middle. Tsk tsk. If you thought KJW made guns with poor metal, here's an example telling you their plastics are made from recycled Orocans. Why do you think they started selling Glock 23 and 27 replacement frames?

A long time ago, MGC put out first generation Glock 19's and they were superb. They were among the very first gas blowback pistols, in the golden age of NBB's. Like all GBB's it had flaws, but it is a classic nonetheless, and a worthy shooter back when Freon-12 was still legally sold, and we all thought being FPJ was cool.

Other makers also did glocks. But umm... to save 55 seconds of your valuable time : they were utter crap.

When KSC came out with glocks, it came out one after the other. For glock lovers like me, it just blew my mind. 17, 19, 17L, 26, 18C, 26C, 34, 23F, 19C, 34C ... Airsoft heaven. I had a 17, 19, 26, and 18C. I briefly had a 23F, but sold it to a friend, who still has it; working to this day. But theirs was the most realistic, inherently more reliable, and were very easy to upgrade. They did break, but it was so easy to fix, and parts were sold everywhere. My guns all have Metal Slides and upgrades shooting upwards of 360-375fps, either from Guarder, Hurricane, 9-ball, or Zeke. And these things can take a lot of punishment. They're not accurate, they're prone to stovepiping (especially the fully automatic ones), and they do not even shoot over 320fps stock . For target practice, use a Marui 92F, or a TM Hi-Capa. Or even a WE 1911. But for a thigh holster backup to your primary when it runs out of steam, get a KSC Glock.

[steven_crimes]

this is how reviews should be!

[Orange]

thank you. it was a slow day at work... hehehe

[chriscos]

I prefer TM glock17 only! :D

already upgraded it to PGC metal slide. and upgraded springs also...

power is great... feel is great... pati accuracy.. cant ask for more if you buy TM..hehe

probs i've encountered with KSC's is their hop-up issues... but more than that.. its a good piece also...

budget buyers could go for KSC and those who have extras.. can get a TM :D

[Orange]

i beg to disagree. a KSC glock is built better than TM glock. the hopup problems you brought up is valid though, sadly. but the KSC is closer to the real thing than the TM is a lot of ways. and you can always remove the hopup ball off the KSC, and it would shoot better. :D

could you walk me through your upgrade experience with the TM glock please? i have shot a tm glock 17 (and the 26, 26 Advance), but never an upgraded TM glock.

[chriscos]

well TM or KSC is not a bad choice for me... as long you take good care of your piece.. there wouldnt be a problem. I just bought a TM because of its glock logo and added sights :D pero KSC or TM, both is a reliable psitol. :)

sir Slough... first i wouldnt recommend to upgrade your TM G17 into PGC metal slide, if your not a gunsmith..hehe joking! coz... first problem is fitting that Slide.. its not fitted directly into TM, i dunno if its only mine, coz before i bought some says it fits directly, no modifications needed... but when i fitted mine... the slide is too thick on the nozzle part... i have to scrape it about 2 - 3 mm.... imagine that..hehe :D but everything is worth the effort... recoil is much better than stock... and with an added range, coz i use greengas now plus the sound is different..hihi... i'm happy with it. :)

[Orange]

well TM or KSC is not a bad choice for me... as long you take good care of your piece.. there wouldnt be a problem. I just bought a TM because of its glock logo and added sights :D pero KSC or TM, both is a reliable psitol. :)

sir Slough... first i wouldnt recommend to upgrade your TM G17 into PGC metal slide, if your not a gunsmith..hehe joking! coz... first problem is fitting that Slide.. its not fitted directly into TM, i dunno if its only mine, coz before i bought some says it fits directly, no modifications needed... but when i fitted mine... the slide is too thick on the nozzle part... i have to scrape it about 2 - 3 mm.... imagine that..hehe :D but everything is worth the effort... recoil is much better than stock... and with an added range, coz i use greengas now plus the sound is different..hihi... i'm happy with it. :)

OO nga, bakit ba mas maganda lagi (and accurate) ang trades ng Marui. And those sights are really a strong selling point for Marui. A Trijicon glow sight like those are more expensive than two Marui glocks, and the ones they sell specifically for airsoft are nowhere as close as the real thing, or the ones Marui replicated. Dang, you're starting to make me change my stand with KSC glocks. Nevertheless, both offerings are good, and what makes GBB's interesting because of the diverse offerings by the different companies.

In my experience, about half of aftermarket slides are not a drop in fit. A fair deal of dremeling and sanding here and there is required. But, like I've always said in the past, is easier to fit a tight part than a loose part. If its loose, there's nothing to sand... hahaha...

[chriscos]

Yep yep.. I agree sir Slough :D

Plus i put a little little little acetone mixed with water... then damped it into the frame to have its matte finish... so far better than that shiny slide..hehe... :D but i like that aftermaket parts of guarder frame... its has authentic markings kasi... pero i've read in airsoft news..that Meister: Glock 17 will release a metal g17 with authentic (close to it i guess) markings. :) dunno if its reliable in battle :D hehe

[rpg]

KSC Glock for me. It's one solid gun that can take a beating.

[Orange]

Yep yep.. I agree sir Slough :D

Plus i put a little little little acetone mixed with water... then damped it into the frame to have its matte finish... so far better than that shiny slide..hehe... :D but i like that aftermaket parts of guarder frame... its has authentic markings kasi... pero i've read in airsoft news..that Meister: Glock 17 will release a metal g17 with authentic (close to it i guess) markings. :) dunno if its reliable in battle :D hehe

wait... acetone, flames...i did not know that trick... this is for plastic slides, yah?

you know what i suddendly remembered tonight? a glock 17 mounted on a "corner shot". it is made in israel, google it up, Corner Shot. you'll be amazed what they've come up with.

[chriscos]

no no no... sa frame ko nilagyan ng acetone mix with water... but i think it will work on the stock plastic slide.. medyo ingat sa amount of acetone, coz pag naparami, it smells like a plastic buring...hehe no doubt coz it is an acid anyway... :D

I've read about the Corner Shot a year ago i think... "unfair" :D hehe... and if i remember theres a movie using that Corner Shot device :D just dont remember it.

[alfonsie2007]

I just got my KSC glock23f. I tested it for a couple of rounds in semi and full auto... I am really satisfied with it. I will change the slides to metal early next year sa ngayon stick muna ako sa stock nya.. Mga bro any negative comments or feedbacks when upgrading it to metal slide and changing from 134a to green gas? please share your stories..TNX

[ebakecky]

Lets settle this once and for all... via pistol game! marui glocks vs. ksc glocks? lets get it on!

... then we'll see which gbb will come on top. watchusey david? uratex? :D

[chriscos]

Paul share your upgraded glock daw!

ot: iniwan nyo nman kme na mga pistol eh lumipat na kayo sa "cameroon".. sana me uratex sa sunday :D

[Glocker]

Lets settle this once and for all... via pistol game! marui glocks vs. ksc glocks? lets get it on!

... then we'll see which gbb will come on top. watchusey david? uratex? :D

nakow, mahirap ito pre. depende sa players yan e. torture test kaya like 500 shots a piece? :D

[chriscos]

torture test? lugi tayo kay ebakecky... lampas na ata ng isang box na BBs yan eh..buhay parin hanggang ngayon :D yaaan ang GBB...hehe

[damageinc]

KSC will win.

KSC GBB's I owned.
G19(Full metal upgrade. Sold)
G23F(Full metal upgrade. My workhorse for 3 years and never had any single problem with it)
USP Compact(Sold)
USP .45(New and fully upgraded. Will serve me from years to come)

[quaker]

I really admire how KSC did their glocks except for the hop system....

if we could only put the hop system of TM glocks into the KSC glocks ..hehehe

plus TM glock's lower frame is a little bigger than the real steel version and KSC glock replicas .... try sliding it in a blackhawk serpa holster :)

[PRELUDE]

I really admire how KSC did their glocks except for the hop system....



+1

this is particularly why I would prefer TM for their G17 version. I'm not too comfortable with the way they designed their hop-up system. the TM hop-up assembly simplier in design and easy to updrade... typical of any other TM GBBs.

[client]

compatible ba ang KSC at TM glock guns? ang TM wala yatang Glock 19. gusto ko pa naman sa TM ay ung logo. sa KSC kasi walang logo sa grip.

[PRELUDE]

compatible ba ang KSC at TM glock guns? ang TM wala yatang Glock 19. gusto ko pa naman sa TM ay ung logo. sa KSC kasi walang logo sa grip.

unfortunately they're NOT compatible...

[chriscos]

question baka me alam kayo..hehe

regarding sa mags ng TM glock17

- meron bang base pad na me glock logo para mukhang real steel?? or swak yung base pad ng real steel glock sa TM mags natin?? - me nakita kasi akong website ganun nakakabit sa mags ng tm g17 nya eh.. pero i've tried searching sa net, wala naman nagbebenta ng ganun :D

[Doll]

BTT: I'd still go for the TM Glock 17. It's user-friendly (with the hop up and disassembly) and performance-wise...is very reliable. Have nothing against the KSC but the hop up system.

[neilgoth1974]

Hi sirs, I'm planning on getting a TM Glock 17 (kinda late for a personal Christmas gift). Will it fit a Safariland 6004 designed for a G17? I've read and heard that the TM version is quite a bit "thicker" than the real steel, more on the G21 size. Could someone confirm on the fitting? In case it won't fit, would the KSC G17 be recommended? Thanks in advance sirs.