Glocks, Glocks, and all things Glocks... [Archive] - Filipino Airsoft (FAS)

Orange

November 20th, 2007, 10:41

In the airsoft world, only KSC does Glocks properly. No MGC, TM, or KJW comes close to a KSC Glock. I love airsoft Glocks. And for airsoft Glocks, I love KSC.

The TM Glock 26 is unrealisticly finished (too shiny), has an unrealistic trigger behavior (doesn't stay down when striker is un-cocked like in a real glock), too light, and breaks the loading nozzle easily on stronger gas. And it has rollers... wahahaha. That's just wrong. Its gbb airsoft... on wheels! But interestingly, it is more accurate than a KSC Glock 26. The newer Glock 17 is an improvement, but still was based on the original design of the 26. The only other glock TM makes is a springer and an electric, and I'm not even going to comment on that because I'm allergic to things that do not run on refrigerants.

It is worth noting that KJW has copies of the Marui glocks, but they were worse. One KJW Glock 23 I had broke the frame! Cracked right down the middle. Tsk tsk. If you thought KJW made guns with poor metal, here's an example telling you their plastics are made from recycled Orocans. Why do you think they started selling Glock 23 and 27 replacement frames?

A long time ago, MGC put out first generation Glock 19's and they were superb. They were among the very first gas blowback pistols, in the golden age of NBB's. Like all GBB's it had flaws, but it is a classic nonetheless, and a worthy shooter back when Freon-12 was still legally sold, and we all thought being FPJ was cool.

Other makers also did glocks. But umm... to save 55 seconds of your valuable time : they were utter crap.

When KSC came out with glocks, it came out one after the other. For glock lovers like me, it just blew my mind. 17, 19, 17L, 26, 18C, 26C, 34, 23F, 19C, 34C ... Airsoft heaven. I had a 17, 19, 26, and 18C. I briefly had a 23F, but sold it to a friend, who still has it; working to this day. But theirs was the most realistic, inherently more reliable, and were very easy to upgrade. They did break, but it was so easy to fix, and parts were sold everywhere. My guns all have Metal Slides and upgrades shooting upwards of 360-375fps, either from Guarder, Hurricane, 9-ball, or Zeke. And these things can take a lot of punishment. They're not accurate, they're prone to stovepiping (especially the fully automatic ones), and they do not even shoot over 320fps stock . For target practice, use a Marui 92F, or a TM Hi-Capa. Or even a WE 1911. But for a thigh holster backup to your primary when it runs out of steam, get a KSC Glock.

steven_crimes

November 23rd, 2007, 02:10

this is how reviews should be!

Orange

November 28th, 2007, 16:32

thank you. it was a slow day at work... hehehe

chriscos

November 30th, 2007, 00:38

I prefer TM glock17 only! :D

already upgraded it to PGC metal slide. and upgraded springs also...

power is great... feel is great... pati accuracy.. cant ask for more if you buy TM..hehe

probs i've encountered with KSC's is their hop-up issues... but more than that.. its a good piece also...

budget buyers could go for KSC and those who have extras.. can get a TM :D

Orange

November 30th, 2007, 11:16

i beg to disagree. a KSC glock is built better than TM glock. the hopup problems you brought up is valid though, sadly. but the KSC is closer to the real thing than the TM is a lot of ways. and you can always remove the hopup ball off the KSC, and it would shoot better. :D

could you walk me through your upgrade experience with the TM glock please? i have shot a tm glock 17 (and the 26, 26 Advance), but never an upgraded TM glock.

chriscos

December 1st, 2007, 01:14

Orange

December 2nd, 2007, 17:52

well TM or KSC is not a bad choice for me... as long you take good care of your piece.. there wouldnt be a problem. I just bought a TM because of its glock logo and added sights :D pero KSC or TM, both is a reliable psitol. :)

sir Slough... first i wouldnt recommend to upgrade your TM G17 into PGC metal slide, if your not a gunsmith..hehe joking! coz... first problem is fitting that Slide.. its not fitted directly into TM, i dunno if its only mine, coz before i bought some says it fits directly, no modifications needed... but when i fitted mine... the slide is too thick on the nozzle part... i have to scrape it about 2 - 3 mm.... imagine that..hehe :D but everything is worth the effort... recoil is much better than stock... and with an added range, coz i use greengas now plus the sound is different..hihi... i'm happy with it. :)

OO nga, bakit ba mas maganda lagi (and accurate) ang trades ng Marui. And those sights are really a strong selling point for Marui. A Trijicon glow sight like those are more expensive than two Marui glocks, and the ones they sell specifically for airsoft are nowhere as close as the real thing, or the ones Marui replicated. Dang, you're starting to make me change my stand with KSC glocks. Nevertheless, both offerings are good, and what makes GBB's interesting because of the diverse offerings by the different companies.

In my experience, about half of aftermarket slides are not a drop in fit. A fair deal of dremeling and sanding here and there is required. But, like I've always said in the past, is easier to fit a tight part than a loose part. If its loose, there's nothing to sand... hahaha...

chriscos

December 3rd, 2007, 17:21

rpg

December 3rd, 2007, 20:08

KSC Glock for me. It's one solid gun that can take a beating.

Orange

December 4th, 2007, 08:50

Yep yep.. I agree sir Slough :D

Plus i put a little little little acetone mixed with water... then damped it into the frame to have its matte finish... so far better than that shiny slide..hehe... :D but i like that aftermaket parts of guarder frame... its has authentic markings kasi... pero i've read in airsoft news..that Meister: Glock 17 will release a metal g17 with authentic (close to it i guess) markings. :) dunno if its reliable in battle :D hehe

wait... acetone, flames...i did not know that trick... this is for plastic slides, yah?

you know what i suddendly remembered tonight? a glock 17 mounted on a "corner shot". it is made in israel, google it up, Corner Shot. you'll be amazed what they've come up with.

chriscos

December 5th, 2007, 06:24

no no no... sa frame ko nilagyan ng acetone mix with water... but i think it will work on the stock plastic slide.. medyo ingat sa amount of acetone, coz pag naparami, it smells like a plastic buring...hehe no doubt coz it is an acid anyway... :D

I've read about the Corner Shot a year ago i think... "unfair" :D hehe... and if i remember theres a movie using that Corner Shot device :D just dont remember it.

alfonsie2007

December 5th, 2007, 07:21

I just got my KSC glock23f. I tested it for a couple of rounds in semi and full auto... I am really satisfied with it. I will change the slides to metal early next year sa ngayon stick muna ako sa stock nya.. Mga bro any negative comments or feedbacks when upgrading it to metal slide and changing from 134a to green gas? please share your stories..TNX

ebakecky

December 5th, 2007, 19:04

Lets settle this once and for all... via pistol game! marui glocks vs. ksc glocks? lets get it on!

... then we'll see which gbb will come on top. watchusey david? uratex? :D

chriscos

December 6th, 2007, 00:49

Paul share your upgraded glock daw!

ot: iniwan nyo nman kme na mga pistol eh lumipat na kayo sa "cameroon".. sana me uratex sa sunday :D

Glock'r

December 10th, 2007, 16:14

Lets settle this once and for all... via pistol game! marui glocks vs. ksc glocks? lets get it on!

... then we'll see which gbb will come on top. watchusey david? uratex? :D

nakow, mahirap ito pre. depende sa players yan e. torture test kaya like 500 shots a piece? :D

chriscos

December 11th, 2007, 04:30

torture test? lugi tayo kay ebakecky... lampas na ata ng isang box na BBs yan eh..buhay parin hanggang ngayon :D yaaan ang GBB...hehe

damageinc

December 11th, 2007, 12:26

KSC will win.

KSC GBB's I owned.
G19(Full metal upgrade. Sold)
G23F(Full metal upgrade. My workhorse for 3 years and never had any single problem with it)
USP Compact(Sold)
USP .45(New and fully upgraded. Will serve me from years to come)

quaker

December 12th, 2007, 18:25

I really admire how KSC did their glocks except for the hop system....

if we could only put the hop system of TM glocks into the KSC glocks ..hehehe

plus TM glock's lower frame is a little bigger than the real steel version and KSC glock replicas .... try sliding it in a blackhawk serpa holster :)

PRELUDE

December 13th, 2007, 04:15

I really admire how KSC did their glocks except for the hop system....

+1

this is particularly why I would prefer TM for their G17 version. I'm not too comfortable with the way they designed their hop-up system. the TM hop-up assembly simplier in design and easy to updrade... typical of any other TM GBBs.

client

December 14th, 2007, 23:12

compatible ba ang KSC at TM glock guns? ang TM wala yatang Glock 19. gusto ko pa naman sa TM ay ung logo. sa KSC kasi walang logo sa grip.

PRELUDE

December 15th, 2007, 00:24

compatible ba ang KSC at TM glock guns? ang TM wala yatang Glock 19. gusto ko pa naman sa TM ay ung logo. sa KSC kasi walang logo sa grip.

unfortunately they're NOT compatible...

chriscos

December 15th, 2007, 03:28

question baka me alam kayo..hehe

regarding sa mags ng TM glock17

- meron bang base pad na me glock logo para mukhang real steel?? or swak yung base pad ng real steel glock sa TM mags natin?? - me nakita kasi akong website ganun nakakabit sa mags ng tm g17 nya eh.. pero i've tried searching sa net, wala naman nagbebenta ng ganun :D

Doll

December 15th, 2007, 08:31

BTT: I'd still go for the TM Glock 17. It's user-friendly (with the hop up and disassembly) and performance-wise...is very reliable. Have nothing against the KSC but the hop up system.

Neil Carreon

January 2nd, 2008, 09:18

Hi sirs, I'm planning on getting a TM Glock 17 (kinda late for a personal Christmas gift). Will it fit a Safariland 6004 designed for a G17? I've read and heard that the TM version is quite a bit "thicker" than the real steel, more on the G21 size. Could someone confirm on the fitting? In case it won't fit, would the KSC G17 be recommended? Thanks in advance sirs.

Json130

January 15th, 2008, 14:29

Orange

January 15th, 2008, 22:27

oh that's easy, find a Glock 17 owner... he'd be more than happy to swap guns with you... :D

melbs

January 16th, 2008, 10:59

sirs,
I have a ksc glock 18, just a question on how to disable the full auto capability of the gun. just don't want the full auto, makes the gun worn out easily. I was able to read it somewhere on this forum that it can be done. thanks.

jay

that's the beauty of the ksc glock 18c, its a select fire pistol, pwede mo iwan lang yun selector sa semi auto all the time!

or like what orange said, swap with a ksc glock 17.

melbs

January 16th, 2008, 11:08

my vote goes to:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/melbs/guns/IMG_0253.jpg

gotta be ksc glocks!

realistic, compared my Glock 19 before to a real steel Glock 19.

offers the 18c (best secondary weapon for gamers like me)

easy to repair as long as you have the parts here heheheh

tons of aftermarket parts and accessories to choose from!

only gripe is it is really not accurate, even on semi auto mode for 18c or my 19 before.

parang ipod lang yan, some of the newer competitors have better features, but still you can't go wrong with the ipod and its abundant supply of accessories.

glocks by tm may have better hop up design, night sight, and still has trades, but you can't go wrong with ksc's aftermarket parts and accessories, and owners to share diy, maintenance, and repair info. :)

Rene Limson

January 17th, 2008, 08:22

Isn't that the slide has to be pulled all the way back first before switching from semi to full and full to semi?

:rolleyes:

melbs

January 17th, 2008, 09:46

its easier that way.

but if you lube it generously you can just switch it while slide is in normal position.

the thing with over lubing it is that sometimes while firing on full auto babalik magisa yun selector switch to safe.

Orange

January 17th, 2008, 22:46

i'm quite bothered by "lube it generously" part... :D:D:D nyahahaha

kidding aside, the glock 18c selector is one of the most misunderstood knobs in full auto GBB's. one needs to lock the slide back before moving the selector. the gun itself will not prevent you from moving the selector, it doesn't mean it likes it. the selector sear wears so much after only about a hundred switches when you don't pull the slide back. this part, unfortunately, is a bit expensive to replace, and has been a source of many broken 18c's...

the unreliability of the 18c selector is not attributed to quality of the part itself, or the design of it. the REAL problem is there is not an english translation of the KSC manual, and so nobody really know about the fact that the slide must be pulled back to operate the selector properly. ;)

Rene Limson

January 18th, 2008, 08:59

Thanks for the confirmation sir Orange. I do the same, lock the slide all the way back, before switching from semi to full on a robocop model and a G26 (KSC models also) and has been working great - no probs.

However, I've somehow, sustained the practice in other brands, e.g., Western Arms' M8045 cougar warrior and a SVI prokiller model (and probably another model) that has semi & full-auto fire also. I am not sure if it's necessary but so far I have not experienced any ill-effects.

Json130

January 18th, 2008, 19:35

I guess it is not possible,thanks anyways.

jay

melbs

January 19th, 2008, 13:39

orange,

maybe you have an extra part # 79 just sitting around, pls pm me if you do

badly need one

ratatatatat

January 20th, 2008, 22:29

sers, saan po kaya ako makakakuha ng holster for my Glock 18 and 190 that will accommodate the weapon light that I have mounted on it?

meron po bang dealer ang FOBUS dito sa pinas? Any info would be appreciated :-)

Thanks!

johnbenr22

January 20th, 2008, 22:34

sir,

KSC glocks and USP are good pistols....and they are so good.. I have two Ksc g18c..the one with auto mode?,,,, shooting both pistols at the same time is like being in the movies,,,,,and yes I already fired more than 500 rounds of bbs.... and it still works na delivers kills.. and yes its hop up is quite an issue (the rubber only) but the flight of bbs?,, it goes and goes and goes....and where it is? bb's flies longer with this gun :eek:

Orange

January 21st, 2008, 22:21

melbs, i have a bucket of glock parts sitting in a closet in LA. the sad thing is i'm in cebu right now, and i've no access to it until i get back... which is in about a year :( sorry! however, try in local shops, you might get lucky.

ratatatat (uie), i was going to say Fobus. but that is a duty-grade holster that would cost about the same as the KSC gun itself. you might want to think about re-acquiring your sewing skills... :D as for me, i'd just put it in my waistband and feel gangsta, shooting sideways for good measure. :D

people who have a problem with KSC hop affecting your accuracy, just remove the hopup ball, which turns the hopup off completely. its not like you'll be shooting enemies at rifle-range with the KSC glock anyway. your glock is a secondary weapon, which you draw when your rifle runs out of steam and you're in a tight spot / cornered, and that will always be in close range. if all fails, bring throwing knives too...ninja stars even :D also, oil on the hopup module will also affect your accuracy severely, so check that first. oily rubber = unstable flight. oily BB's causes oily rubber. over lubing of the blowback nozzle also contributed to spraying unwanted oil in the hopup chamber.

melbs

January 22nd, 2008, 15:31

^ its ok orange, a fellow member here offered to import parts :) thanks anyway!

tried local shops before and none has them in stock, nor would accept special indent orders.

cebu? wow miss that place, champion cnt lechon!

melbs

January 23rd, 2008, 10:37

budget buyers could go for KSC and those who have extras.. can get a TM :D

sir hindi ba 500 pesos difference lang ang ksc from tm? 5000 and 5500 respectively.

anyway the tm glock magazine by my friends experience is picky with bbs. no problem with ksc, excel and marui bbs, but tried the cheap china bbs and bbs get jammed in both his magazines (bbs wont go up).

ksc glocks so far all brands of bbs i used no problems

Grendell

January 23rd, 2008, 12:24

I think both KSC and Marui have their points. Both are durable and perform well for their intended purpose and range. I've owned a KSC 26, 17, 18c, 19, 23, TM 26 and 17.

For KSC The 26 and 17 are decent and dependable performers. The 18c and 23 are unparalleled at suppressive fire. I particularly like the lower frames of the 19 and 23. They are a joy to hold and shoot. They have a high metal content and feel like the real thing. Great for upgrading to metal slide. All KSC Glocks I've owned have great short range accuracy. You can literally shoot off the lit end of a cigarette at 20 feet.

For TM, The 26 is decent but the 17 is accurate to a fault and gives much greater flat shooting accuracy at a longer ranges than KSC Glocks I've tried. The sights are also great for target acquisition during night skirmishes but leave you visible to the trained eye if you're not careful.

**Both KSC19 and TM17 wont normally fit a Blackhawk Serpa easily without sanding the inner part of the holster. Just tried it last night.

chriscos

January 24th, 2008, 10:19

awwww sayang! i plan to buy pa naman :(

jobybau

April 28th, 2008, 13:29

Go for a KSC Glock,change the slide to a metal one...
Presto!,a greengas-ready,low maintenance & high performance GBB.

jaythelegend21

May 3rd, 2008, 01:31

sirs i love this thread! hehe.. a question, how much for a brand new KSC Glock 19 (plastic slide)?? would you recomend this to a gbb newbie? this will be my first gbb... thanks in advance sirs...:D

chriscos

May 3rd, 2008, 05:30

i think ksc glock 17 and 19 are around 4.5k+ ... for a newbie, yes recommended ito...lalu na sa budget persons...although konti nalang you can save up for TM :D

jocab

May 9th, 2008, 21:00

Glock'r

May 13th, 2008, 23:13

nothing but nice things about ksc glocks! hmm... can you interchange a g18 slide for a g17 slide alone without changing frames? Same question with g19 and a glock23, read a question in this thread and verymuch intrested. Thanks!

naku sir, afaik, hindi pwede ilagay ang slide ng g17 sa frame ng g18 and vice versa. madaling idisasmble yung slide ng g17 sa frame kesa sa g18 kse ms complex yung mechanism nya sa loob. pwede magazines.

jocab

May 14th, 2008, 10:52

naku sir, afaik, hindi pwede ilagay ang slide ng g17 sa frame ng g18 and vice versa. madaling idisasmble yung slide ng g17 sa frame kesa sa g18 kse ms complex yung mechanism nya sa loob. pwede magazines.

thanks sir, just a thought, buti nlang nagtanong muna ako. haha!

Glock'r

May 30th, 2008, 12:56

Go for a KSC Glock,change the slide to a metal one...
Presto!,a greengas-ready,low maintenance & high performance GBB.

OT:sir, san my metal slide ang ksc g17 and magkano? tia

Glock'r

May 30th, 2008, 12:57

looks like marui is catching up ah. :D

thezen28

May 30th, 2008, 22:31

I've nothing but praise for the KSC Glocks. I've been using mine for some time now and the frame took the abuse of the full metal slide+barrel kit with stride, no problems whatsoever even with greengas. Recently it fell in a puddle of mud while in a game, just did a quick clean of the inner barrel and magwell, after that fires again flawlessly. Durability is one of KSC Glock's strengths. It could be said that the hop is somewhat sketchy, but that could be easily fixed.

Hammer

June 4th, 2008, 10:09

up for this thread. i recently got a KSC g23f :)

kamandag

June 6th, 2008, 01:02

Got a KSC G26C. Hindi ko pinagsisihan na ito ang ipinalit ko sa TM Samurai Edge :)

ramraider

June 7th, 2008, 22:10

Mga sirs matanong ko lang po... ang TM Glock 17 mag ba pwede sa KSC Glock 18c? TIA

Hammer

June 8th, 2008, 01:27

I just want to share my ksc glock :)

http://images.tabulas.com/54653/l/IMGP9309.JPG

http://images.tabulas.com/54653/l/IMGP9293.jpg

http://images.tabulas.com/54653/l/IMGP9304.jpg

:)

davedecap

June 8th, 2008, 16:39

Very nice glock nakatulo laway hehehe. Any way, any of you guys know why a KSC glock 19 would double feed ? And how could this be fixed? thanks guys.

Hammer

June 11th, 2008, 21:46

guys, i upgraded my glock 23f to a metal slide. so im using green gas, now bawat putok ko onti onti natatanggal sa rail yung flashlyt/laser ko..diko na tuloy magamit

XONDERVON

June 12th, 2008, 07:20

ill go for the KSC glock coz it is what i have and it really works great!

clutch_quake

June 17th, 2008, 18:28

mga sir pano ko patinuin ung fullauto ng g18c ko nagloloko kc minsan ksc po

clutch_quake

June 20th, 2008, 11:24

mga sir ask ko lng how to fix the fullauto of my ksc gloc 18c, kc minsan nagjajam.naiiwan ung parang nozzle sa loob, parang kulang sa lubrication.. tnx po

medic

June 23rd, 2008, 09:47

Sirs is there a difference in terms of build quality between the KSC glock 17 and 19? I already had the chance to handle glock 19 and I was impressed with the tactile feel of the pistol, parang tunay. Is the Glock 17 the same or more plasticky?

Is the G&P Glock 17 metal slide set a good buy? What other metal slides would you recommend? tnx

erwin

June 30th, 2008, 11:51

How much is a TM GLOCK 17 or 18?
Planning to get one...

Jipjip Lascano

June 30th, 2008, 15:37

How much is a TM GLOCK 17 or 18?
Planning to get one...

walang glock 18 ang tm...:D try the other brands sir, i have a stock KSC glock 18c and im very happy with it:D

mikediazong

July 3rd, 2008, 12:51

mas mura ba ang KSC kesa sa TM?

chriscos

July 4th, 2008, 03:03

I think minsan mas mahal pa sa ibang stores ang KSC japan kesa sa TM e. Pero mas mura KSC taiwan ng di hamak! :D

budbender

August 7th, 2008, 19:40

sirs share ko lang ksc g23f ko, universal holster will work(it can accomodate the mp7 nga eh) ... like sir orange said... Lor's!:icon_lol:....

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5004/1001598ut6.jpg

full auto on green gas.... masisindak yung binabril mo hehehe....:icon_biggrin:

KILAWIN

August 7th, 2008, 22:13

sir may problem po ang KSC glock 18c ko.. pagkachange ko po ng metal slide parati na po syang nagjajam after every 4-7 shots.. even when it is in auto mode.. ano po sa tingin nyo ang problem? i love its upgrade now.. parang real talaga.. lalo na ang sound.. yun nga lang problem ko... nagjajam... please helpp...:icon_wall::icon_mad::icon_weep:

icolater

August 10th, 2008, 00:36

I have a ksc g23f and g17, I also have 2 marui g17s, I love all my glocks but marui glocks are better, the ksc g19 and g23f both have "heavy weight frames" and are much better then the ksc g17 and g18 frames but the marui glock 17 frame is better, its sronger, has all the trades and weights and looks very simular to a real steel g17 (I own a real glock 17) I have broken a good few ksc glocks (the internals are a bit doggy with old school hop up) and only broken one marui g17, I really like the ksc g23f on full auto but as a replica of a real glock the frame is to heavy and does'nt feel the same. Tokyo marui have really improved in recent years ( tm g26 is rubbish) and there GBBs are the best for performance (accuracy & consistancy) and there molding is the most robust. So sorry KSC fans (I used to be 1 to) but the marui g17 is the best glock GBB available period...

bendoze

August 11th, 2008, 12:27

so now, i will buy a TM G17 :icon_smile:

Sputnik

August 11th, 2008, 12:55

Mga sirs matanong ko lang po... ang TM Glock 17 mag ba pwede sa KSC Glock 18c? TIA

No :icon_cool:

In general though, how many have you noticed (in this particular thread) complaints about problems in relation to a KSC or a TM Glock? If you come to realize that fact, then you should have a very good indication on which Glock GBB to purchase :icon_razz:

Rhai

August 12th, 2008, 12:09

guys medyo OT kasi a friend of mine gave me a ASGK glock 17, im a bit confused cause i search the net and i couldn't find this brand hehe btw it is made in japan. do you guys know this brand? TIA :icon_smile:

mikediazong

August 12th, 2008, 12:47

Sputnik

August 12th, 2008, 14:43

ASGK = Airsoft Gun Kai

This is a regulating organization for Airsoft Manufacturers. Typically airsoft guns with the ASGK like the one posted above is basically indicating that its fps rating is below 1joule or roughly below 295 fps.

ASGK <> TM, it could be either a marushin, maruzen, WA etc.

Rhai

August 12th, 2008, 18:50

thanks for the fast reply but i doubt if what brand this is wala naman kasi nakalagay na ibe eh ASGK lang talaga tnx anyways :)

green

September 9th, 2008, 09:14

im gonna get me a glock 19 on wednesday, kasya ba ito sa mga common na holsters?
tnx n advance..

mikediazong

September 9th, 2008, 10:18

im gonna get me a glock 19 on wednesday, kasya ba ito sa mga common na holsters?
tnx n advance..

kasya yun pero mas prefer ko yung mga fully adjustable dropleg holster para mas fit mas secure yung gbb mo.

green

September 9th, 2008, 19:24

i see, thanks a lot sa advice.

jmsas07

December 22nd, 2008, 09:47

sir pwede po ask? sensya na po i have a kj works glock 23 and nasira po yung magazine meron po ba kayo alam kung san pwede bumili ng magazine? brand new or working condition?? d po kasi ako makapag post sa Want to buy ^^ salamat po kung may mag rereply. pa pm nalang po:icon_smile:

ramraider

December 22nd, 2008, 17:06

Anyone who has or had the TM G26A? Why did you buy/sell it?

spikeXXX

December 22nd, 2008, 17:48

glock ba ika moh?......:icon_confused:

i bought meister glock 17! good, cheap, accurate, powerful and practical GBB!:icon_smile:

exact clone ng TM G17.... "kasing husay, ngunit hindi kasing mahal!":icon_razz:

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ASGK? di ba TM yun?
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/mikediazong/DSC03657.jpg

This is a Tokyo Marui- ASGK:icon_smile:
All airsoft manufactured on 80's to 90's are marked ASGK!

ramraider

December 22nd, 2008, 18:21

Pero kasing TIBAY rin ba?

spikeXXX

December 23rd, 2008, 12:35

Pero kasing TIBAY rin ba?

sir.... kaya nga hindi ko nilagay eh!.....:icon_razz:

konting ingat lang sa meister glock 17... ok na yun!...:icon_biggrin:

ramraider

December 23rd, 2008, 12:56

How long do you think it'll survive? Aabot kaya ng year? Taken care of ah.. Not yung laro ng laro

spikeXXX

December 23rd, 2008, 14:56

How long do you think it'll survive? Aabot kaya ng year? Taken care of ah.. Not yung laro ng laro

i have tried to compare it with TM Glock 17, its almost the same!..... ang common problem some encountered is the magazine!..... but few repairs, OK na ulit!......:icon_smile:

right now im using TM glock magazine for my Meister and it performs very well!:icon_razz: im using it every week sa game ko!..... ok naman siya!... back up na lang yun original na meister magazine!:icon_surprised:

to be honest with you sir, madami nag-upgrade ng TM glock 17 na kinukuha nila ang metal slide ng meister! and the unit is working very well!.....(back-up na gun yun meister-"TM"plastic slide):icon_biggrin:

ramraider

December 23rd, 2008, 15:05

Onga noh you can use the TM mag naman ah... Replace lang the mag and you're good to go :D Did you upgrade your GBB? Or all stock except for the mag?

spikeXXX

December 25th, 2008, 23:04

Onga noh you can use the TM mag naman ah... Replace lang the mag and you're good to go :D Did you upgrade your GBB? Or all stock except for the mag?

yup mag lang naging problem nun gun namin.....leak! we replaced the o-ring, ok na ulit yun meister magazine....:icon_sad:

no need to upgrade kasi 290 to 320 fps na yun gun! depende sa greengas na gamit nyo sir..... eh back-up lang naman yun gun.....all stock....:icon_biggrin:

i have not tried pink gas.... pumapalo daw ng 350 to 360fps...:icon_confused:

ramraider

December 25th, 2008, 23:56

Ok pa rin kaya ito for plinking araw araw? Hehe medyo bored kasi eh lol

spikeXXX

December 27th, 2008, 14:12

Ok pa rin kaya ito for plinking araw araw? Hehe medyo bored kasi eh lol

ok naman yun gun!.....basta TM magzine gamit mo!....

kasi ako pinang babaril ko ng bubwit sa bahay:icon_lol:..... patay...baliktad yun bubwit! hehehehe! nice pest control!....:icon_lol:

very affrodable for a 290 to 310 fps gun!....:icon_smile:

gusto ko din bumili ng CA 1911a1....mura din yun for a 290 to 310 fps gun! hehehehehehehehe:icon_lol:

ramraider

December 27th, 2008, 16:03

Sirain raw ang CA1911 :( Kaya Meister Glock na lang ako XD

spikeXXX

December 28th, 2008, 16:44

Sirain raw ang CA1911 :( Kaya Meister Glock na lang ako XD

bakit sa review ni renegadecow ok naman daw.... considering the price, metal slide and quality of Classic Army.... :icon_smile:

please see: http://www.filairsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58616&highlight=1911

yun nga lang, nasa low budget kaya konting ingat lang..... build to compete with china-low end unit!..parang CA sportline series! :icon_smile:

ramraider

December 29th, 2008, 12:30

Yea but at the near end of the thread... Makikita mo yung problems niya

spikeXXX

December 29th, 2008, 16:25

Yea but at the near end of the thread... Makikita mo yung problems niya

check ko....... thanks for the tip..... balikan kita!:icon_smile:

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i see the problem of CA 1911a1..... it also shows on a real 1911a1 gun!.... i know how to solve the problem....

i guess its not for a newbie gun.... for sure its worth the risk ( if you know how the gun works)........

bukas bibili ako.... hehehehehehehe lets see!....

ramraider

December 29th, 2008, 17:23

Take the risk :D That'll help a lot :D

spikeXXX

December 30th, 2008, 00:14

Take the risk :D That'll help a lot :D

hahahahahaha!..... i will post na lang for any help i could do to correct the CA 1911a1 problem...:icon_smile:

at this point, risk naman talaga kahit ano gun bilhin natin, it dosent mean na kapag mahal ang gum mo, walang problem na ma-encounter...madami ako kilala at kaibigan, nag-upgrade ng TM, hirap nilang patinuin yun gun nila..... its like buying a real gun, ganun din ang problem (my cousin has a gun store)...:icon_blink:

kasi when i buy a gun, i will first look at the price, kung acceptable sa price range ko.... kung ang GBB ko will cost 15T, NO WAY I WILL BUY THAT GUN (GBB), KASI BIBILI NA LANG AKO TOTOO!.... ganun din sa AEG ko, if it will cost 25T HINDI DIN AKO BIBILI, TOTOO NA DIN BILIHIN KO.....:icon_lol:

ramraider

December 30th, 2008, 10:44

Same thing... Price first tapos quality :D

spikeXXX

December 31st, 2008, 01:33

Same thing... Price first tapos quality :D

any way..... just keep in touch!.....:icon_biggrin:

hindi ako naka bili ng unit.... baka jan 2......:icon_lol:

happy new year!:icon_wink:

ramraider

December 31st, 2008, 08:20

OT: Akala ko RE avatar mo XD

Happy New Year rin sir spikeXXX! Balitaan mo ko sa CA1911 mo ah :D

Eugine_Stoner

January 14th, 2009, 19:09

need some help here planing on buying a glock but i am deciding between a second hand KSC glock 18c or a bnew JG Glock 18c which one should i get??

Velocity

January 14th, 2009, 23:41

I'm not sure if anyone has seen this already. Awkward but it amazed me.

The fastest Glock draw, ever!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwhLpvyXO1M

nonerz

January 15th, 2009, 02:06

KSC and TM are both good brands..:icon_wink:

Velocity

January 15th, 2009, 06:24

the slide must be pulled back to operate the selector properly. ;)

If you pull the slide back when switching fire modes, won't it double feed?

Or do you have to take the mag off, pull the slide back, switch to the fire mode you want, then push the mag back in?

coby_boy

January 16th, 2009, 17:09

sir, any review with jing gong glock 18? also meister glock 17?

Archeo

January 19th, 2009, 19:55

If you pull the slide back when switching fire modes, won't it double feed?

Or do you have to take the mag off, pull the slide back, switch to the fire mode you want, then push the mag back in?
Here's what I do with my KSC Glock 23F. Rack the slide back and lock it in place, change your trigger select to your desired one, insert the magazine inside the magwell, release the slide catch and whala! you're ready to fire.

For when the magazine is there and you accidentally turn it to safe, I think it would end up with you having to release the magazine first then rack your slide and lock it then do what I do before shooting it without the mag.

Confusing? I know... I'm confused as well... xD

But if it's just normal trigger select then it's just as normal as you would think although when the gas runs out and you still have a few bbs then your trigger will lock so you'll have to release the mag and do the 1st method that I do... xD

Of course this is speaking from using my Glock 23F, soo if you're not asking for a Glock with a trigger select then disregard my post. ^^

oyo21

January 19th, 2009, 21:18

KSC glock for me...

r3aper

January 20th, 2009, 01:13

Here's what I do with my KSC Glock 23F. Rack the slide back and lock it in place, change your trigger select to your desired one, insert the magazine inside the magwell, release the slide catch and whala! you're ready to fire.

For when the magazine is there and you accidentally turn it to safe, I think it would end up with you having to release the magazine first then rack your slide and lock it then do what I do before shooting it without the mag.

Confusing? I know... I'm confused as well... xD

But if it's just normal trigger select then it's just as normal as you would think although when the gas runs out and you still have a few bbs then your trigger will lock so you'll have to release the mag and do the 1st method that I do... xD

Of course this is speaking from using my Glock 23F, soo if you're not asking for a Glock with a trigger select then disregard my post. ^^

is your ksc glock 23f the one with metal slide already sir.? how does it fair.? any mods or upgrades done so far.?

Archeo

January 20th, 2009, 07:11

is your ksc glock 23f the one with metal slide already sir.? how does it fair.? any mods or upgrades done so far.?
Haven't had it upgraded since I just got mine this January 04. To be honest, as of currently I'm not planning on upgrading it to a metal slide although I might do that in the near future.

Also, I'm quite new to GBBs so I'm not doing and upgrades as of yet though I guess I could give you a heads up when I upgrade mine.

r3aper

January 21st, 2009, 00:11

Haven't had it upgraded since I just got mine this January 04. To be honest, as of currently I'm not planning on upgrading it to a metal slide although I might do that in the near future.

Also, I'm quite new to GBBs so I'm not doing and upgrades as of yet though I guess I could give you a heads up when I upgrade mine.

ah ok, noted sir.. guess what your using is the one with the plastic slide.. thanx anyway sir.. :icon_wink:

Archeo

January 21st, 2009, 22:43

Haha, indeed sir r3aper. My 23F is the plastic slided one, I opted for the plastic slide though I don't know why... xD

Anyways I might buy another KSC when I get to sell my guitar, a metal slided one this time but not sure which Glock... =S

coby_boy

January 21st, 2009, 22:54

ano best glock na type? dami kasing klaseng glock na..

xianne

January 22nd, 2009, 11:32

For me KSC Glock 19 is the best, because of its HW frame. It Feels like the real deal...

kiko

January 22nd, 2009, 17:12

If you pull the slide back when switching fire modes, won't it double feed?

Or do you have to take the mag off, pull the slide back, switch to the fire mode you want, then push the mag back in?

Pull the slide back and lock it with the slide stop, select firing mode, press down slide stop then insert mag, fire away!

I got this new KSC Glock 23F full metal, and I love it! I also have a glock 23 KJW full metal love it also.

coby_boy

January 23rd, 2009, 14:06

For me KSC Glock 19 is the best, because of its HW frame. It Feels like the real deal...

tama lang ba laki ng glock 19? parang maliit kasi..

xianne

January 23rd, 2009, 19:42

tama lang ba laki ng glock 19? parang maliit kasi..

tama lng ung laki ng glock 19 para sakin, di naman ako malaking tao eh. kaya depende syo sir.

coby_boy

January 23rd, 2009, 20:50

hehe, mukang glock 17 is the gun for me then.. malaki kasi kamay ko..

hitman01

January 26th, 2009, 21:48

mga sir, plan ko sana bumili ng glock26 yung bagong labas ngayon ng CA full metal na kasi mura pa. ok kaya yun? meron na po ba naka gamit sa inyo nun? tnx in advance.

rogie643

January 28th, 2009, 22:16

mga sir,,, could yu help about HFC gloc 17,, actually i bought it with a broken outer barrel ,,, i went to mas to buy for replacement .but all the gloc barrel doesnt fit in the slide,,,thinking that this gun is phase out model???...what should i do??? are there other model of KSc 's would be compatible to HFC brands specially to gloc 17....TIA

nemotaku

January 30th, 2009, 23:26

Just got hold of a KSC glock 17 kaso nga lang plastic slide, due to financial restrictions and kating kati na ako magkaroon ng glock. The cyme aep glock just feels lacking. Anyways, na sanay ako sa full metal bell beretta 92f ko using 134a, and when i fired the glock, wow, a hard kick from 134a gas? cguro dahil sa plastic slide, mga sirs maapektohan ba slide ko kc parang ang lakas sobra. Para sakin the best feeling glock out there is the ksc.^_^

hitman01

January 31st, 2009, 22:33

Got my KSC Glock23f, ganda! meron ba dito nagbebenta ng hi cap mags yung 30 rds yata yun?

ecavill2000

February 1st, 2009, 19:16

mga sir, tulong naman po, nag field strip po ako ng JG Glock 18C para linisin, ng ibinalik ko na po yung metal slide nya eh di na ma squeeze yung trigger. anu po gagawin ko?:icon_question::icon_redface::icon_cry:

oyo21

February 1st, 2009, 20:37

Sir try mo to di ako sure,:icon_confused: bago mo ibalik ung slide dapat naka safe,then kasa tapos switch mo ung selector sa slide... :icon_confused: tingangal mu ba ung ibang parts nya sa slide sir?

hitman01

February 1st, 2009, 21:07

GUD PM mga sir, san kaya mura bumili ng Hi Cap mags for my ksc g23f, yung mahaba 30-50 rds yata yun?

ecavill2000

February 1st, 2009, 23:55

Sir try mo to di ako sure,:icon_confused: bago mo ibalik ung slide dapat naka safe,then kasa tapos switch mo ung selector sa slide... :icon_confused: tingangal mu ba ung ibang parts nya sa slide sir?

Sir yun pong recoil spring and spring guide lang po ang tinanggal ko, then nung ibalik ko na po eh di ko na ma squeeze trigger..:icon_sad:

hitman01

February 5th, 2009, 15:18

yung mga gusto magpa refil ng green gas dyan dito lang po ako sa rocka village ph.6 apitong st. plaridel bulacan.

Green gas = P250/tank
P800/4 tank

134a = P270/ minimum 4 tank

txt na (0915-9048473)

Colt_45

February 6th, 2009, 01:02

TM brands sir ok po, try nyo TM glock 17.. =)

Chrono Trigger

February 9th, 2009, 19:52

Some Questions lng po mga glock lovers..

Any Thoughts about the WE 18c?

I really like the Full auto feature of it?

and another thing, are there other brands that has a Full auto glock as well?

ramraider

February 9th, 2009, 19:56

What?!? What do you mean WE? Wow @_@ Ganun na yata ako ka late sa usapan XD

How's about a CA G26? Any comments?

Chrono Trigger

February 9th, 2009, 20:32

sorry sir, nagkahalo yung brands,,,:icon_biggrin:

di ko na maalala yung brand...:icon_sad:

jetpogs

February 9th, 2009, 23:22

sir, try mo ksc na brand... solid ang mga glocks ng ksc... try mo rin ang tm na brand...:icon_smile:

deletend

February 9th, 2009, 23:26

What?!? What do you mean WE? Wow @_@ Ganun na yata ako ka late sa usapan XD

How's about a CA G26? Any comments?

sir check out this thread for the ca g26...
(... kinda... )
made a mini rev on it..

http://www.filairsoft.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64447

(costs around 2800 sa.. hobbie .. the store near t.morato starbux)

ramraider

February 10th, 2009, 20:50

Yeah I've read that pero I want to see how it is after it's tested sa game maybe pag 1 month na... And kung anong tips/mods pwedeng gawin... Mahirap rin sa kanya is walang extra mag (for now)

hector8

February 10th, 2009, 23:18

TM brands sir ok po, try nyo TM glock 17.. =)

ok talaga ang tm glock 17 problema lang e nababasag agad yung dulo ng slide
nabasag kasi tm glock 17 ko plinking lang, pero swabe talaga ang ganda pa ng groupings

prokopyo69

February 11th, 2009, 00:18

KSC Glock 17 satisfied user here...:icon_smile:

Plink3r

February 11th, 2009, 06:34

I got a JG Glock 18c from Lowdog about a month ago. A real bargain, I was told that I just needed to replace the recoil spring kasi medyo malambot. All JG 18C's are like that. Too bad they didn't have any springs on stock.

Nice weight and markings on the unit, good build quality and finish. Metal slide, green gas ready.

I took the beauty home and went plinking in my backyard. True enough, sometimes the slide wouldn't return forward fully (maybe about 2mm kulang) because of the soft recoil spring and so I'd need to push the slide forward to be able to fire again.

Luckily, I found a replacement spring from MyAirsoft a few days later. I replaced the recoil spring. And now works great! Flawless.

jocab

February 18th, 2009, 22:42

Yeah I've read that pero I want to see how it is after it's tested sa game maybe pag 1 month na... And kung anong tips/mods pwedeng gawin... Mahirap rin sa kanya is walang extra mag (for now)

meron na sir, just bought a magazine that is for a glock17 and it fits just right! at the plastic base plate it reads ARMY only but youll know that its for the ca glock coz all the dimensions including the squarish rubber lip of the top of the mag is identical to the mag of the ca g26. works even better than the stock mag. its 25 bb's. sa circle c meron. cost 800 pesos. not bad for a 2.8k pistol. beat that!

mot26

February 20th, 2009, 14:37

gud pm

nagbabalak ako bumili ng ksc na glock pero im confused kung glock 19 or 18c, ano po ba mas maganda and mas matibay? iniisip ko kse kung 18c pag nag full auto madali po ba masira? TIA

ramraider

February 20th, 2009, 22:17

meron na sir, just bought a magazine that is for a glock17 and it fits just right! at the plastic base plate it reads ARMY only but youll know that its for the ca glock coz all the dimensions including the squarish rubber lip of the top of the mag is identical to the mag of the ca g26. works even better than the stock mag. its 25 bb's. sa circle c meron. cost 800 pesos. not bad for a 2.8k pistol. beat that!

That seems nice :D Where did you get that spare mag? Thanks for your inputs sir jocab

nemotaku

February 21st, 2009, 00:13

Mga sirs ok po ba durability ng Army R17 Glock? Thankx po. And any reviews for this gun? Compatible kaya ksc mags d2?

jacksparrow2

February 24th, 2009, 17:44

Nice review, Orange! Very helpful for newbie like me. :)

Cadmus

February 24th, 2009, 23:24

Salamat sa informations mga sir... now I know what to get in the near future to replace my mp5k as a sidearm.

nemotaku

February 25th, 2009, 22:16

Just bought a R17 Army Glock, ok naman sya with the slide being a slight matte gunmetal grey tint rather than your ordinary black, plastic frame looks kinda weak bec compared it with a ksc glock, but feels nice, only prob was the stupid mag, which leaks, maybe i just got lucky and i have a lemon. Just wanted to ask u guys kung compatible ba ang glock marui mags sa army R17? Thankx

chriscos

February 26th, 2009, 00:13

^ yup, compatible siya ;)

icemanx79

February 26th, 2009, 23:50

mga sirs na owners ng TM G17 where can i find a loading nozzle of TM g17?? badly needed.

jocab

March 4th, 2009, 08:30

That seems nice :D Where did you get that spare mag? Thanks for your inputs sir jocab

at the ground floor of circle c mall beside cherry fooderama near mindanao ave. in quezon city. forgot the name of the store but its the only one at the ground floor coz the mall has several airsoft stores. you'll find the prices are competetive.

ramraider

March 4th, 2009, 20:08

at the ground floor of circle c mall beside cherry fooderama near mindanao ave. in quezon city. forgot the name of the store but its the only one at the ground floor coz the mall has several airsoft stores. you'll find the prices are competetive.

Does it mean that you got the best price or the only stock?

@Glock and USP users (or simply those who tried the USP) - Glock or USP? Which beats which? I cannot decide :(

jocab

March 9th, 2009, 08:19

Does it mean that you got the best price or the only stock?

@Glock and USP users (or simply those who tried the USP) - Glock or USP? Which beats which? I cannot decide :(

no, they have two more and the price is actually 900p, just haggled with the sales lady coz i got other items too. you shld chek it out sometime

d307364

March 9th, 2009, 15:00

I just bought this bang-bang a few days back..Im just starting this hobby. I havent really tested this though..Can you guys give me an insight on what to expect with this? thanx!!!

KJW USP Match like Metal S/B Semi Auto Gas Blowback Pistol-Long

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i hope its a diff. story with this gun...I paid good money for this..I just hope its worth it..

KJW USP Match like Metal S/B Semi Auto Gas Blowback

coby_boy

March 10th, 2009, 00:29

sir, noob lang sa gbb, saan mura spare mag for ksc glock 17? and how much?

Milkman

March 11th, 2009, 10:19

Glock 17 Meister for me - Cheap, metal slide, good markings, (closest to the real steel) acceptable finish (reminds me of the 1st gen real steel glocks) and so far reliable. I have used 3 Green gas canisters, so far no single jams..

lestah

April 20th, 2009, 23:39

Just to revive the thread. anyone can shed some light where to purchase some upgrades for G18c and G23f? barrels, metal Spring guide for 18C(plastic kc stock)? i cant seem to find a place that sells these parts

beren

May 30th, 2009, 18:35

can anyone tell me the price diff between ksc g17 ang g18c?im planning to purchace my 1st gbb pistol,so far 2 brands standout tm and ksc,i think ill go for ksc

michaelracal

May 30th, 2009, 20:42

sir sino ba sainyo naka encounter na ng problem sa glock 18c? kasi ung akin twice na ako nagkaproblema ang problema ay di sya pumuputok nung una ibinalik ko sa binilhan ko sabi nila kulang sa silicon oil then pagbalik sakin ok na tapos after several days ganun na naman ang problema...sino ba pde d2 makatulong sakin?

colonial_marine

May 31st, 2009, 08:42

hello all!
well since this thread is dedicated and catered to the hammerless, boxy looking glock addicts like me, im sure someone would be able to help me out on a simple, but "classic" problem.

here goes, some time ago, i procured a very classic MGC Glock 17.

classic but really cheap.

never having used it since i procured the gun without its heart, its gas reservoir magazine.

now, would anyone tell me, who has information on where do i get just as cheap but pretty functional magazine locally, like dito lang sa maynila?

second problem, since i am never ever going to use this piece as a skirmish weapon, can anyone help me how to repair the slide lock scratch on the slide?

what adhesive/epoxy/advanced chemicals/paints do i use to hide it?
AND how?
would my scale model skills be useful?
refer to the photos of the scratch.

photos of the mgc glock 18 and my new Army armament R17
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/nakazatoGTR/Photo-0016.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/nakazatoGTR/Photo-0021.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/nakazatoGTR/Photo-0022.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/nakazatoGTR/Photo-0015-1.jpg

heero_yuy

June 5th, 2009, 07:36

KSC KSC, as Orange put it, KSC,

my first glock is a KSC I had the slide polished, have two of this, it was the time of bad boys 2 where everyone bought glocks, the performance was SUPERB I can never count how many died on those guns. I even play it on open FPS back then. furthermore the parts can be bought at HK, nasiraan na ako, swerte lang napalitan agad. just watch over part # 87. medyo mahirap ito hanapin at may kamahalan, iba yung sa Glock 17 tilted ng mga ilang mm. as what I've said it is SUPERB. when I use, it is as if its a part of my body. mastery of this weapon is so easy. you can disassemble and assemble it blind folded , the same way you see in the movies ( not going thoroughly disassembling the fame and parts, I dont know if its just me but I think its slightly heavier than its real steel counterpart or i'm just holding the real steel with out ammo. If you asked me. KSC glock pa rin. I read from a review a few years back that KSC Glock 19 is the improvement of the KSC glock 17, and KSC Glock23F is the improvement model of KSC glock 18C . I don't remember this review. but hey, its KSC if you are to rank quality and performance WA would be for Enterprise business and KSC is its Medium/Small business enterprise Vendor. (lamang lang sila sa pag re red Gas back then) pero ngayon pwede na rin ata.. hayy KSC pa rin

ffar

June 7th, 2009, 09:35

Just got my KSC glock 18c yesterday, and Im very happy with it. the weight is just right, its very easy to handle, and the auto mode is awesome! I was choosing among a TM G17 or KSC USP .45 or the 18c... But the 18c's full auto mode sold me to it! A very cool handgun! very recommended!

beren

June 7th, 2009, 10:11

nice! i also got myself a ksc g17,now im planning to buy another glock,anu ba difference ng g23c ang g18c?size lang ba?which do you think is better?

nemotaku

June 7th, 2009, 15:44

beren

June 7th, 2009, 21:29

@beren
glock23c is kinda a subcompact glock w/full auto, but unlike the glock 19 it uses a standard g17 mag, w/ the stpid adapter thingy, pro ok sya bec it comes w/ a 3-dot sight system(sadly not glow in the dark). >_< and when buying full auto glocks, a great buy will be the 50rd mag. hehe

50 round mag!:icon_twisted: yup planning to get that too:icon_biggrin: can anyone tell me how many bbs i can fire before the 50round mag rans out of gas?

ffar

June 8th, 2009, 07:30

hopefully I think you'll be able to finish the whole mag (extended) bro, I'm speaking of course, with regards to my experience with the KSC G18c, I can finish around 2 mags (23bbs each mag) using full auto and around 2-3 mags using semi.

nemotaku

June 8th, 2009, 23:34

cool down lang ang problem when it comes to full auto fire, humihina yung rof, pero in warm countries tulad satin namiminimize, hindi nawawala but na minimized ang cool down ng mag. but full auto w/ the metal slide ver of the g23f=uber fun. pag plastic slide ver. naman bilis ng rate of fire kc mas mabilis sya mag cycle, yun nga lang bilis din masira.

btw, tanung lang mga sirs... madali lang ho ba palitan yung plastic slide ng g17 ko to a metal slide, gus2 ko sana i diy yung pag install ng metal slide.:icon_biggrin: thankx

dan33

June 18th, 2009, 22:45

gud pm mga sir, ask ko lang kung saan nakakabili ng spare mag for ksc glock 23? may singaw kasi ata yung akin, after 4-5 shots lang wala na. and if possible, mabibigyan nyo po ba ako ng idea kung pano ayusin yung prob nung mag? hoping for answers, thanks.

beren

June 19th, 2009, 07:26

bro,d kita matutulungan sa pag ayos,pero regarding tha mag it is the same as g17 mag ng ksc without the adaptor or body filler,widely available sya...

colonial_marine

June 19th, 2009, 08:28

bro,d kita matutulungan sa pag ayos,pero regarding tha mag it is the same as g17 mag ng ksc without the adaptor or body filler,widely available sya...

when you say adaptor or body filler, what does it look like?

second,would this ksc mag fit the MGC glock 18?

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gud pm mga sir, ask ko lang kung saan nakakabili ng spare mag for ksc glock 23? may singaw kasi ata yung akin, after 4-5 shots lang wala na. and if possible, mabibigyan nyo po ba ako ng idea kung pano ayusin yung prob nung mag? hoping for answers, thanks.

sagot diyan:

PIONEER MIGHTY SEAL!

oo.unscrew bottom piece, wash with JOY liquid,

dry,

wash the area that part occupies on the innards of the magazine, dry.

spread generous amount of sealant, around the sides of the magazin endcap,

screw togetherm let dry 3 days.

tapos!

as for double feeds, get a dremel tool, choose a round router bit, 6mm size below, grind the area the bb rests and maybe even a drop of CA glue.

beren

June 19th, 2009, 09:26

when you say adaptor or body filler, what does it look like?

second,would this ksc mag fit the MGC glock 18?

g17 g18 g23 all have the same magazine,except the g23 which has a shorter grip.a plastic jacket is placed at the buttom of the mag to cover the exposed part.
sorry im not familiar with mgc glock

deathcloud

June 19th, 2009, 09:39

dan33

June 19th, 2009, 14:42

sir any ideas where to buy a ksc g23 mag? compatible ba ang TM mag dito?

maporms

June 21st, 2009, 16:30

Velocity

June 21st, 2009, 19:45

Im itching for a ksc g17... pamback up nung hi capa ko.

how much po siya ngayon? yung bakal na yung dinadaanan nung bb's. ano ba difference kung bakal or hindi?

system 7 na ba itong bagong metal slide ksc glock 17?

if so, naayos na ba sa system 7 ang hop up issue ng ksc glocks?

Koms,

Are you talking about the outer barrel? Wala naman syang bearing sa performance & durability. Nagiging mas realistic lang ang sound pag kinasa mo yung baril. :icon_smile:

michaelracal

June 21st, 2009, 21:58

maporms

June 22nd, 2009, 21:57

@ velocity - thanks for the reply bro.

problem ko lang baka falfak pa din ang hop ng ksc... pero yung system 7 kasi bagong technology ata nila. can some ksc glock user confirm this?

Archeo

June 22nd, 2009, 22:43

problem ko lang baka falfak pa din ang hop ng ksc... pero yung system 7 kasi bagong technology ata nila. can some ksc glock user confirm this?
Sir, the hop up essentially is still the same. You need a key to turn the hop up dial. And there's no System 7 na Glock po me thinks. The only few System 7 KSC makes are the Sig P226r, Beretta M93RII, and the H&K USP / MK.23 ones lang po. *At least un lang po ang alam ko. >.<*

System 7s improvements were *mostly* on the Magazine I think since the hop is still essentially the same.

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@Michaelracal

Sir, I encountered that 2 times as well pero it might be another case because my slide then wasn't fully returning back so the trigger select group wasn't catching the trigger mech on the frame. Easy way to remedy is pushing it forward if that's the case.

If not, baka naman po sa Trigger Mech na. Better have it checked up with a gunsmith for better troubleshooting results.

beren

June 25th, 2009, 23:14

Im itching for a ksc g17... pamback up nung hi capa ko.

how much po siya ngayon? yung bakal na yung dinadaanan nung bb's. ano ba difference kung bakal or hindi?

system 7 na ba itong bagong metal slide ksc glock 17?

if so, naayos na ba sa system 7 ang hop up issue ng ksc glocks?

koms re sa dinadaanan ng bbs,so far from what i've seen ksc g17 & 18c plastic sya,pero bakal sya on the ksc g19 & 23c,just check it before you buy.re sa hop issues ok naman lipad ng bbs on both my ksc glocks :icon_wink:

nightgunner

June 25th, 2009, 23:57

sir anyone heard Army Glock 17?also know as R17 in product form of Army.I saw it and its already metal slide and outer barrel already.and it only cost 3.5k.need review about it.can any1 make a little review?

beren

June 26th, 2009, 07:21

yup saw one nice markings,polished slide and tm clone sya in short gwapo,too bad i wasn't able to test fire it...

dan33

June 28th, 2009, 20:47

mga sir, masama ba mag iwan ng gas sa mag? or better to remove it after the game? nanghihinayang kasi ako minsan pasingawin yung gas after the game eh.

dreadlord

June 28th, 2009, 21:54

mga sir tanung ko lang meron n bang G32c ang ksc? kasi ang kj meron, ok kya yung sa kj?

kimboy2c

June 29th, 2009, 01:04

RIFLES.... TM! GBB's.... KSC for me!:icon_biggrin:

ppcsurfr

June 29th, 2009, 01:27

I'm another KSC believer. I think KSC went the extra mile to get their pistols to behave like the real thing.
Case in point. The real SIG SAUER P226 does not have any manual safety. The KSC follows this pretty well. But the TM has a safety for their P226. The real Glock doesn't have a manual safety as well. TM adds one in their Glocks.

As for trades... There are aftermarket slides for KSC Glocks with nicely done trades. Too bad not all frames come with trades though.

As for the hop issue - The KSC hope is slightly on the finicky side. But once you know the faults, it's easy to correct them.

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Sir, the hop up essentially is still the same. You need a key to turn the hop up dial. And there's no System 7 na Glock po me thinks. The only few System 7 KSC makes are the Sig P226r, Beretta M93RII, and the H&K USP / MK.23 ones lang po. *At least un lang po ang alam ko. >.<*

System 7s improvements were *mostly* on the Magazine I think since the hop is still essentially the same.

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@Michaelracal

Sir, I encountered that 2 times as well pero it might be another case because my slide then wasn't fully returning back so the trigger select group wasn't catching the trigger mech on the frame. Easy way to remedy is pushing it forward if that's the case.

If not, baka naman po sa Trigger Mech na. Better have it checked up with a gunsmith for better troubleshooting results.

The Glocks basically have the same mechanics as the new System 7. My P226 Sytem 7 has the same design as the Glock 19 of KSC. My older KSC USP .45 has a totally different system which is found in the older versions of the M9, Mk23, M93R etc.

Check the loading nozzle, it's now plastic and it's one piece. The older system uses a metal tube within another metal tube as the loading nozzle which is housed in the blowback housing.

And with the price of the Glocks from KSC that come with metal slides and barrels... I think there is no question about that. I'd rather put the extra money in green gas and BBs and several extra mags. Upgrading a TM to have a metal slide and barrel is more expensive plus, TMs are more expensive to start off with.
Koms,

Are you talking about the outer barrel? Wala naman syang bearing sa performance & durability. Nagiging mas realistic lang ang sound pag kinasa mo yung baril. :icon_smile:

Actually sa KSC if you get the one na bakal na yung barrel, that means bakal na rin yung slide. One weak part on a KSC is the notch for the slide stop. This easily breaks with the KSC plastic slides. So if you do get the metal slide version which comes with the metal barrel already, then it will be able to take a lot of beating.

mellvis

June 29th, 2009, 01:48

mga sir tanung ko lang meron n bang G32c ang ksc? kasi ang kj meron, ok kya yung sa kj?
Nope, though a closely-sized equivalent looks like a KSC glock 19. I recommend you get a TM or KSC so you won't have a headache. Also, metal slides for KSC glocks are much cheaper than TM.

OT
mga sir, masama ba mag iwan ng gas sa mag? or better to remove it after the game? nanghihinayang kasi ako minsan pasingawin yung gas after the game eh.
Sir please read RC's maintenance guide.

dreadlord

June 29th, 2009, 09:36

Tnx mellvis, actually kinukumpleto ko lang yung collection ko ng mga different models ng glocks, tm and ksc brands. wala nga lang G32c ang ksc, antay n lang ako bka gumawa cla. salamat sir.

terminusx

July 4th, 2009, 02:46

ok kaya ang ksc glock sa practical shooting?

vitado_mp5

July 4th, 2009, 09:29

@beren: sir, magkano ba ngayon ang ksc G17 in the market? im planning to get one..... TIA..

nice! i also got myself a ksc g17,now im planning to buy another glock,anu ba difference ng g23c ang g18c?size lang ba?which do you think is better?

khavitty

July 4th, 2009, 10:35

I think glock18 yung common na ginagamit ng law enforcers sa other countries.meron na bang jg brand dito na glock?

terminusx

July 4th, 2009, 11:06

I think glock18 yung common na ginagamit ng law enforcers sa other countries.meron na bang jg brand dito na glock?

meron po sir...

check nyo mga fas supporters...

dan33

July 5th, 2009, 00:11

mga sir, may ibang brand ba ng mag na compatible sa ksc glock 23? matagal na kasi ako naghahanap, mga shop na napupuntahan ko wala..

koji

July 11th, 2009, 06:46

Mga sir any review on KSC glock19? Pareho lang b ng mga internals ang mga KSC glocks? Planning to have one,hopefully mabola ko si kumander,hehehe....TIA

beren

July 11th, 2009, 08:27

@koji,ksc g19 & g23 is good metal na yung spring guide and yung daanan ng bbs giong to the barrel unlike g17 0r g18c which is plastic,well atleast yun yung na observe ko
@vitado,pm kita

terminusx

July 11th, 2009, 09:15

@beren

yung metal slide version na glock23 mas maganda pa sa metal slide version na glock18?

eissej

July 11th, 2009, 09:47

sirs ask lng poh..nu po kya prob ng glock26 ko?nlalaglag lng bbs...ndi ko lng sure kung my nwala s parts or nasira nung nilinisan ko inner barrel....tnx

beren

July 11th, 2009, 12:47

@terminusx,i dont know if its better pero metal yung parts na namention ko sa g23 sa g18 plastic.initially i was getting the g18c kaso nung nasilip ko g23 nalang kinuha ko,tiningnan ko rin g17 plastic g19 metal

chicane

July 11th, 2009, 16:02

Mga sir saan po ba nakaka bili nang PGC Slides for Glock 19? Nahihilo nako kakahanap may nakita ako kaso nasa redwolf airsoft, di naman po ako maka order kase ntatakot ako about sa shipping. Mayroon po ba nag bebenta nang ganyan dito?? Maraming salamat po mga sir!

koji

July 11th, 2009, 22:45

@koji,ksc g19 & g23 is good metal na yung spring guide and yung daanan ng bbs giong to the barrel unlike g17 0r g18c which is plastic,well atleast yun yung na observe ko
@vitado,pm kita

So sir KSC G19 is good to go? how about sa upgrades,madali lang din ba? TIA

beren

July 12th, 2009, 08:19

ksc g19 is a good pistol,im not familiar with upgrades dahil all stock yung akin,although meron ako nakikita mga upgrade parts for it

kmz

July 12th, 2009, 14:49

my 1st glock

http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv326/kokomaxinezoe/canonpics019.jpg
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kj works glock 32c

Silent_Trigga

July 12th, 2009, 15:08

for me I really like KSC brand pag dating sa Glock GBB

Capitan

July 12th, 2009, 18:59

Mga sers, Any Idea kung magkano sa market yang ksc g19? TIY

Glock'r

September 11th, 2009, 04:36

I think glock18 yung common na ginagamit ng law enforcers sa other countries.meron na bang jg brand dito na glock?

Actually, Law Enforcement personnel usually chooses G17 as duty pistols since it is Glock's workhorse. Then for concealed carry while off duty, they choose either G19's or G29's or kung ano mang mga compact pistols. That is if they choose Glocks which is majority of them or pag yun ang inissue sa kanila. As for the G18's, hindi sya usually issued unless requested. So, basically, what I'm trying to say is, G17 yung common for service/duty.

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sirs ask lng poh..nu po kya prob ng glock26 ko?nlalaglag lng bbs...ndi ko lng sure kung my nwala s parts or nasira nung nilinisan ko inner barrel....tnx

sorry for the late reply. di kya natanggal mo yung hop rubber?

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KSC pa rin for me. I tried TM but sadly, it didnt impress me (except for the replacement sight) I had my KSC G17 for 4 years. All stock and still rocking :D

Archeo

September 11th, 2009, 06:53

KSC Glock 23F ko mas lalong naging Crisp and more felt and blowback these days.

Ansaya iputok Waha. =D Pag Full Auto naman para ang naka Muscle Car (lol) anlakas sa gasolina pero masaya. :icon_wink:

For Glocks, I'd say KSC ang pinaka maganda. *for me at least*

Ohh and take note, plastic slided and using 134A pa yang 23F ko nang lagay na yan. :D

Spongebob

September 11th, 2009, 14:07

Glock'r

September 12th, 2009, 02:19

About a month ago, I was dead set on buying a ksc glock17 for my hobby of practical shooting. in one tournament, the ksc g17 of one of the participants, which is still fresh from the box, malfunctioned and repeatedly jammed.

Although it may have been an isolated case, i was nevertheless worried about its reliability and durability, considering that in practial shooting, your gbb will really be put to a test since u'll be firing your gun more than a 100 times in each practice session.

However, after reading a few reviews, i may try a ksc glock. baka kailangan lang talaga i fine tune para mas maging reliable.

In that case. That participant probably got a substandard unit. Even the top dogs of the airsofting industry suffers from this as well though its not that common. I for one knew some people who owns Colts and Springfield Armory (real steel of course) had problems with their guns upon purchase. Take note, this brands are normally reliable.

combatrock

January 3rd, 2010, 18:05

Whish is better po kaya?
TM GLOCK 17 CUSTOM or KSC GLOCK 17 Metal slide?

barurot

January 3rd, 2010, 18:56

Satisfied user of glock 18c, basta glock nothing beats ksc!

Boomboom

January 4th, 2010, 20:05

Hello po sa lahat. Ask ko lang po if the KSC Glock26 is the best airsoft/GBB for self-defense sa mga nanghahabol na aso while mountain biking?

I leaning toward the Glock 26 because of it's discrete size. I've tried tear gas na din po but very poor range po especially if you want a preemptive strike, mahirap na kasi na kung kelan ka na hinahabol tsaka ka pa bibira ng tear-gas. There's also the risk of gasing your fellow biker who are behind you since the gas tends to get left behind or move backward when your moving forward on a bike. And since I was in Airsoft hobby few years back, I taught of bringing a small pistol airsoft with me instead of a tear-gas... I just want something small, easiy to conceal and reliable. Any other small gbb suggestion/s??

I apologize in advance if I'm posting on the wrong thread.