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nikki6
August 10th, 2008, 21:52
abid fan po ako ng snipers, and what are the things i should consider when handling a rifle inside the battlefield?
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------are there areas here in manila na pwedeng i-apply ung snipers? d po ba mga cqb lng ang events d2?
mellvis
August 11th, 2008, 00:19
Control. Newbies and high-powered FPS guns don't mix. I'm not saying all newbies are irresponsible. The point is that since you're new to airsoft, you have a higher tendency to lose control especially under frustration. For example, most blow their tops when they first encounter zombies (every once in a while you'll see them ranting about it on the gen. airsoft discussion board).
It's all up to the organizers whether snipers can play or not. I've seen snipers play in CQB, with restrictions of course. During the few times I played at CXG, we played against snipers there. Their guns were pretty weak though. I got hit and it didn't even leave a scratch.
blue_helmet™
August 11th, 2008, 00:45
in the outskirts of metro manila madami-dami rin...like in fairview sa north and in paranaque are naman sa south...
do's and dont's...i dont qualify to state some..d.m lang ako.. :D
Denski Sison
August 11th, 2008, 08:33
Never shoot way below minimum engagement limit (100feet minimum), it's not only for safety but a tactical advantage as well.
Never shoot within the range capabilities of assault rifles, machine guns, pistols.
Never give away your position by shooting a non priority target.
Never play sniping as assault.
Never assume sniping is cheap.
Never shoot more than 3 shots in one position/location.
Never stay too long in one location.
Do upgrade your rifle heavily for precision and long range (250feet precision accuracy on average)
Do know the capabilities of your rifle at each ranges.
Do know what the capabilities of your opponent's weapons.
Do know what your opponent's usual movements are.
Do know how to play it right.
jomarx
August 11th, 2008, 08:42
Never shoot way below minimum engagement limit (100feet minimum), it's not only for safety but a tactical advantage as well.
Never shoot within the range capabilities of assault rifles, machine guns, pistols.
Never give away your position by shooting a non priority target.
Never play sniping as assault.
Never assume sniping is cheap.
Never shoot more than 3 shots in one position/location.
Never stay too long in one location.
Do upgrade your rifle heavily for precision and long range (250feet precision accuracy on average)
Do know the capabilities of your rifle at each ranges.
Do know what the capabilities of your opponent's weapons.
Do know what your opponent's usual movements are.
Do know how to play it right.
Nice info sir! Saved and noted! The last part is the best. :icon_smile:
Takuya
August 11th, 2008, 09:12
Just to follow up an explanation on part of Denski's post, that also includes how to read your scope at different ranges. Each scope is different but it'll usually have markings for various ranges. It also depends on your hop up setting and the overall range of your rifle. So if it's dead center at 100 feet, it may not be when you fire at a target at 150 feet. So you gotta know how to aim at targets at different ranges.
My technique is putting targets at different ranges and shooting at them one after the other. I like my hop up setting to have the BB to start to fall after 150 feet or so. So I use the lower markings in my scope.
One last thing, Denski is oh so right about the moving around. Snipers are not supposed to stay in one position unless they're defending something. But even then you should still move around. After a few shots people already know where you are, and would either try to counter-snipe or flank you. Then you'd be a sitting duck. So fire a shot or two, hit or miss you have to move to a new location.
Some good snipers (like in the military in fact) already plot out alternate sniping spots, escape routes and hiding places for various situations. It'd be a good idea to try doing this as well. Ghillie suits won't be necessary either if you're good at hiding, positioning and sneaking around. :D Though ghillie suits do help if all you got going for you is visual cover like dead grass.
Hope that helps a bit.
mxpxzx
March 18th, 2009, 23:58
barilin mo lang kng san mararamdaman ng kalaban,, hnd kng saan masasaktan,, kaawa naman cla,, lakas pa naman baril,, hehehe,, hanapin mo to sir sa google "carlos hathcock" galing nyan, us marine sniper,
Majinbu
March 19th, 2009, 14:17
when you are the marksman in your team, do what every body does not do - it will lead you to it.:icon_smile:
chronos446
March 20th, 2009, 13:01
wag na wag mong barilin in point blank range ang kalaban....instead do a knife kill..My friend once encountered this problem with a newbie airsofter. Yung newbie natataranta na kasi nauubos na yung team nila, so yung ginawa nya nagtago. By chance my friend passed by dun sa hiding place ng yung newbie na sniper and out of frustation binaril nya yung kaibigan ko in point lank range maybe mga 15feet or more.....nag leave ng scar and minor bleeding sa neck.Awts..:icon_biggrin:
fas_element
March 23rd, 2009, 22:46
patience kailangan
City Hunter
March 26th, 2009, 09:52
Yup. Practice and patience ang required to be a sniper. Hindi madali at expensive ang role na ito. It will demand a lot on the person so be prepared if you are seriously considering this role.
If you want a real life training ay maging bird watcherand photgrapher ka (bawal na ang hunting kasi at hindi dapat not unless you are hunting crooks dahil may badge ka). That will teach you the basics. Hindi pwede ang mainipin sa sniper at yun maiksi ang pasensya.
niguevara
March 26th, 2009, 11:15
@sir denski and cityhunter
gano kaexpensive ang role ng sniper? lets say that the setup of a sniper is 500fps? 550mm barrel?
steyr
March 26th, 2009, 11:59
patience kailangan
sa ingles...PATIENCE is virtue.:icon_smile:
ndi ka dapat mainipin.
dapat maganda location mo yung ndi ka nila kita pero kita mo sila.:icon_lol:
Patch
March 26th, 2009, 12:34
find a good position and as everyone is saying: BE PATIENT... :)
move after some shots, for as we (snipers) didn't know, we maybe a sitting duck on our post if we stayed there for long...... the OpFors can outwit us if we lose our focus on our role being a sniper.. :)
Kultabashi
March 26th, 2009, 16:44
Heheh.. here are some Dos and Donts which may be of help to you guys.
Dos....
- Do Develop a One shot Attitude. This will work wonders on GOING THE EXTRA MILE when searching for targets. Remember, Marksmen/Snipers are more Descriminating, Patient, Persevering etc etc... And Remember, theyre chosen from the regular grunts because of destinct qualities. Im not saying that YOU CANT play the role if youre not qualified.. thats the BEAUTY of AIRSOFT... you can play ANY ROLE.... but, You wont be effective as a sniper/marksman If you dont have the right attitude when playing.
- Do Camoflague your rifle. Use Burlap/Jute, or anything which can break the outline of your weapon. There are no Straight lines or black lines in nature, and your GUN... has a straight and black outline. if in an URBAN environment, wraping your gun with a Tan or grey Cloth will do.
- Do Know the "Max Effective Range" of your weapon. "Maximum Effective Range" is the range of your rifle where its IMPACT will still be Heard or Felt by your target. Where as Maximum Range, is only the Maximum REACH of your rifle... this is not nessecarily felt by your target upon impact. Knowing this, you will be able to guage if your "One Shot" will do its job.
- Do use a BB loader when loading AMMO. Your hands have OILS and GRIME which can affect the BB SPIN when it exits your Rifle. using a loader will minimize on bb exposure to oil, thus, maximizing your BBS Hop, translating to more range and very predictable flight paths.
- Do RECONOITER or RECON the area of operations before playing. The best asset of a sniper, is that he knows where to hide, where to create "hit and run" ambush points, where to exit when the $Hi#@^% hits the fan. Maximize the Environment you are in, and you will get the upper hand.
- Do keep calm when youve targeted your tangoes. Keeping calm enables you to analyze the situation. If you should shoot and skoot afterwards or if to even shoot at all. What use is a SNIPER/MARKSMAN if youve been spotted by your own target. remember: your best asset is not your gun.. its concealment.
- Do know what your teamates look like, or where they will be in relation to your current position. Your Job is to give YOUR teamates SUPPORTING DISCRIMINATE FIRE. Firing on them... makes your ENEMIES HAPPER THEN EXPECTED.
- Do use HUMAN SIZED TARGETS when plinking. Normaly, we use uber small coke cans, c2 bottles... so on an so fourth when plinking, then we say OUR GUNS ARE NOT THAT ACCURATE. Doing this you present yourself with an unrealistic target. Remember, in airsoft, we shoot people OUR SIZE.. a coke can is barely the size of a HUMAN HEAD. Use a VEST or an IPSC Cardboard target ( the one with a HUMAN SHAPE). Place it 130 - 170 feet away from you... doing so, you can actually guage your evectivity with ACTUAL SIZED targets.. similiar to the ones you will be Targeting during a game. You can acctually see if you can make a Headshot at range.. and hear what the BBS will actually sound like on impact, very satisfying if you ask me.
remember, our 500fps - 550 fps rifles have wear and tear and are NOT CHEAP to maintain. Our BBS can cost up to 2php a piece. Make each shot..in game or in plinking a learning experience to make your marksmanship much better as you go on in airsoft.
Here are some Donts.
- Dont FLAUNT your STUFF before the game starts. Advertising that YOU ARE A SNIPER/MARKSMAN, gives your enemies an opportunity to re-evaluate thier strategy before the game starts. Keep a low profile. Theres a reason why in the realworld, DESIGNATED MARKSMEN LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER SOLDIER, so they dont present themselves as a PRIORITY TARGET.
Ifyou have to wear your ghillie, do so and be silent about it... it may be a fashon show somtimes, but this will risk you being a prime target if youre not careful about it.
- DONT travel with the MAIN FORCE if wearing a GHILLIE. Doing this, youre bound to be seen by the other camp, therefore giving yourself away even before you fire a single shot. DMS on the otherhand, are free to mingle within the main force. Theyre supposed to do so.
- DONT focus too much on your target. The Main weakness of a Sniper/Marksman is his FLANKS, always look 360degrees everynow and then for FLANKERS and other SNIPERS who are emploring COUNTER SNIPER TACTICS.
- DONT Stay in one position.. contrary to popular belief, SNIPER CAMPING does not increase the snipers effectivity.. infact.. if Gives the enemy a chance to counter your position. Remember, as a sniper... you are the HUNTER... Hunters are one step ahead of the prey. Move from one place to another to keep your prey GUESSING.
- DONT focus too much on your weapons bells and whistles. Focusing too much on accessories, somtimes if not most, makes you, the sniper, rely more on the GUN for kills. the heavier it becomes, the more you will NOT WANT to MOVE AROUND. It is Gettting to your target that makes a HUNTER a HUNTER. If you cant hit a target with a basic 490fps rifle with a scope...or even get to your target with a lite weapon what more a heavy, fully accessorized gun that can snag on branches, break in two, or get mudied and dirty. better re evaluate your role preferences.
- DONT use TREES as hiding spots. Wether at the BASE or as a TREE SNIPER.... DONT... just DONT. Because thats the 1st place your tangoes will be looking for you, and if youre spotted, specially if up on the branches.. where the hek will you escape to when it rains 6mm bbs from the enemy?.... basta... pls... dont...pls
- DONT rely on GUNSMITHS when it comes to your own rifle. Know how your weapon operates. Doing so, you will pour more LOVE AND CARE to your rifle, taking care of it and knowing how to fix it or TWEAK it will make your ONE SHOTS even more meaningful.
yan... thats all i could think of as of the moment.. :)
niguevara
March 26th, 2009, 16:49
@sir Rene Lichauco - dami ko natutunan!salamat sir!
OT : where can i buy books about sniping?
Patch
March 26th, 2009, 19:28
me and my L96, hands down to you sir Rene Lichauco!... :)
shuttershotmigo
March 27th, 2009, 22:42
thanks KULTABASHI! idol!
lester_barretto
April 4th, 2009, 23:43
kelangan ata may handgun ang sniper parang sa CS para di mataranta
kaka
April 5th, 2009, 07:58
wat guns po magandang gamiten?
Heckler
April 5th, 2009, 08:55
practice stealth
painkilla
April 7th, 2009, 15:47
listen to sir DENSKI and sir KULTABASHI kasi isa sila sa mga premier sniper ng AIRSOFT...anyway thanks to your infos mga sir..
--if im not mistaken mahal talaga ang MAINTENANCE ng pang SNIPE...but its well worth it naman...tingnan nyo naman sila sir DENSKI and KULTABASHI...
nikki6
April 7th, 2009, 15:56
Never shoot way below minimum engagement limit (100feet minimum), it's not only for safety but a tactical advantage as well.
Never shoot within the range capabilities of assault rifles, machine guns, pistols.
Never give away your position by shooting a non priority target.
Never play sniping as assault.
Never assume sniping is cheap.
Never shoot more than 3 shots in one position/location.
Never stay too long in one location.
Do upgrade your rifle heavily for precision and long range (250feet precision accuracy on average)
Do know the capabilities of your rifle at each ranges.
Do know what the capabilities of your opponent's weapons.
Do know what your opponent's usual movements are.
Do know how to play it right.
CHECK! sir denski, i have been learning from your words since the first day! sana makaharap ko na kau this days!
hyperalergelo
April 7th, 2009, 17:10
Loud and clear sir!!! hehe!!!:icon_biggrin:
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- DONT rely on GUNSMITHS when it comes to your own rifle. Know how your weapon operates. Doing so, you will pour more LOVE AND CARE to your rifle, taking care of it and knowing how to fix it or TWEAK it will make your ONE SHOTS even more meaningful.
the best tong linyang to.. hehe!! tama nga naman.. dpat lam mo ayusin sarili mong riffle..:icon_biggrin:
Sgt Oinky
April 16th, 2009, 13:27
that's how real sniper do it. they get to know their rifle. by that i mean how far you can shoot effectively....not just how far you can shoot. knowing what it can do under different conditions, how to move with it in different situations and terrain.
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