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Old September 7th, 2007, 13:59
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Old September 7th, 2007, 18:03
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NICE!!!

Im wondering about the performance though Stuks, most SP owners are selling their units because of the horrible "performance"..maybe lack of range? or just plain unskirmishable?

Are the escorts better? How's the range on your Escort MP5 by the way?
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Old September 7th, 2007, 18:21
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Default Re: Escort HK416 Gas Blow Back Rifle

If that's a blowback there is no range and accuracy but it's nice to play around like my MP5 ...
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If that's a blowback there is no range and accuracy but it's nice to play around like my MP5 ...
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Yes, it's a blowback. You need to adjust the hop-up for range. Accuracy, maybe not compared to AEG simply because of the recoil where you need to re-require your target just like any real steel gun. A friend of mine said a gas gun is like a high breed horse, it needs tweaking/tune-up before it shows it full potential. Wonderin, if you get yours with the A-spec spring? I have 2 Escort MP5s and both have their share of minor problems. We troubleshooted and fix it. these cannot be avoided as Escort custom-built and handcrafted every piece of their product. They are a small development company doing contract job to most big airsoft gun companies and have no financial capability to mass produce them and automate their production (well, not as per their current business strategy). That's why every piece is unique and have bits of problems but no major that we can't fix...However, having said this, if one need a flawless Escort Gun made according to your specs and delivered to one's doorstep to shoot 500 fps, it can be custom made from Escort at extra cost to cover the extra man-hour of the technician which is very expensive in Japan.

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NICE!!!

Im wondering about the performance though Stuks, most SP owners are selling their units because of the horrible "performance"..maybe lack of range? or just plain unskirmishable?

Are the escorts better? How's the range on your Escort MP5 by the way?
Yes, you're right, Dens. SP M16s GBB are very frustrating especially for beginners and plain unskirmishable. Either those selling theirs just gave up on it or have no access to good old school techie.

Or if I remember correctly, SP outsource the M16 gun base or parts from Escort and put in their engine on it. Unfortunately, SP just missed out many design considerations according to Mr. Tawada of Escort. But I'm sure that Escort bought the rest of the SP inventory and modified it with their new Blow Back Engine. Hence, offered them as Escort modified SPs.

The same goes with Youth Engineering (YE) MP5s, they bought the old YE plant inventory (and also, the old JAC Mold I was told. which only justified the story why they were asked by SP to make the M16 base gun). But in fairness to SP, they opened up the rebirth of these "classics" that utilized AEG magazines.

And yes, Escort is way better…from the design of their blow back engine, my gas guru said, it is now more gas efficient compared to the old school classic blow back system.

My Escort MP5 got range as well due to its adjustable hop-up. I don’t have a chrono so I can’t accurately measure the fps at different psi level. But it punched the bottom of coke can. My guess….maybe 380~420 fps. I kept it below 150 psi as recommended. Mine comes with A-Spec Spring for increase fps and very high rate of fire.

But mind you, if you want to order it according to country regulation or your preferred fps, it can be customized up to 500 fps but with extra cost. But for me, I’m happy with my MP5 as it is.

Here a pic of Escort MP5 externally modified to Navy Flash Hider and Taclight handguard:
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Escort on top.
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Both pics above by: -=Bloodred=- of Airsoftforum.com

And by the way, Dens. The HK416 I posted is a VFC based gun and modified by Escort to accept their GBB engine.

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if u have that Hockler lying around your house when i visit you wanker i will be severely pissed and shall hate you forever until u hand me the rifle hahahahahaha
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Were you able to range your escort Stuks? An estimate?
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if u have that Hockler lying around your house when i visit you wanker i will be severely pissed and shall hate you forever until u hand me the rifle hahahahahaha
Don't worry, start making excuses with your CO. You still have 2~3 weeks from now to do it hehehe

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Were you able to range your escort Stuks? An estimate?
Ok, Dens. SInce you are still have to be convinced of its decent range hehehe

Here you go:
With all honestly, I have not accurately measure the range but I guess it is safe to say about ~150 ft. I have 2 reasons why I say that: One, because it still shoot straight from one telephone pole to the next. Which is 1 span in telecom lingo and by standard, pole intervals should be 150 ft. Second, because from a review at Arnie's on its predecessor, the Youth Engineering (YE) MP5 Gas Blow Back shoots ~320 fps out of the box at 110 psi with ROF of 900~950 rpm and was measured to accurately hit a ball target about a size of human torso at 90 feet EVERYTIME. As already mentioned, I estimated this Escort MP5 that comes with a A-spec stiffer spring (at cost) and our economical tweaking to shoot 380~420 fps. So there you go!

Here to make you start making good excuses to your CO as well
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filn...mp5_review.htm

Murag gikapoy na tingali ka maneuver, Dens dah. Kay murag concern na man kaayo ka sa range hahahaha kidding!

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kidon and spitfire,

Check out my latest posts here for more inspiration hehehe
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